[DWJ] Hello again, and beards

Nic W eawil3 at email.wm.edu
Sun Sep 14 18:41:16 EDT 2014


Haha, I once worked out his age, too, though I didn't go so far as his
birthday.  Hats off to you!

- Nic

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Eleanor Joslin <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
wrote:

> OK, the Witch of the Waste's curse on Howl is based on that John Donne
> poem, one line of which is "Ride ten thousand days and nights".  This is
> where I use my inborn talent for opening books at exactly the right page
> without trying, and find the end of chapter 11, just after Miss Angorian
> has been reading him the poem:
>
>         "Oh, nothing," Howl said airily, leading the way back to the
> yellow house called RIVENDELL.  "The Witch of the Waste has caught up with
> me with her curse, that's all."  He seemed to be calculating or doing sums
> in his head while he opened the garden gate.  "Ten thousand," Sophie heard
> him murmur.  "That brings it to about Midsummer Day."
>         "What is brought to Midsummer Day?" asked Sophie.
>         "The time I'll be ten thousand days old," Howl said.  "And that,
> Mrs. Nose," he said, swinging into the garden of Rivendell, "is the day I
> shall have to go back to the Witch of the Waste."
>
> Now 28 years is 10,227 days (the number of leap years is fixed at 7 -
> since the Wales bit is clearly modern, we can ignore the 100-year rule).
> Midsummer Day is defined in different ways - I picked 23 June.  Howl's 28th
> birthday falls 227 days after that, which takes it to 5 February the next
> year.
>
> Eleanor
>
>
>
> Jameela Lares wrote:
>
>> Actually, I do not ask about your geekiness.  (What answer could one
>> return?) I do ask you to explain and or remind me of the chronology.
>>
>> Jameela Lares
>> Professor of English
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
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>> ________________________________________
>> From: Dwj [dwj-bounces at suberic.net] on behalf of Eleanor Joslin [
>> eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 4:29 PM
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] Hello again, and beards
>>
>> Book-Howl is one of the most precisely age-specified characters in all
>> of DWJ.  On Midsummer Day he is 10,000 days old.  That makes him 27,
>> with a birthday round about 5 February, depending on exactly when you
>> think Midsummer Day is, and assuming the calendar in Ingary is the same
>> as in Wales and that time moves at the same rate in both worlds...
>>
>> (Yes, I am a geek.  Why do you ask?)
>>
>> Carol Carr wrote:
>>
>>> If Michael were depicted as the boy of 15 or 16 that he is, instead of a
>>> child of 10, it would have been better. I have seen some awful
>>> illustrations that suggested Howl was about 16 and Michael about 8. Poor
>>> Sophie, she needs Howl to be at least 20!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Philip Belben<philip at axeside.co.uk>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Watching the Miyazaki *Howl* on Sunday got me to wondering whether
>>>>
>>>>> Markl/Michael's habit of donning a beard before greeting visitors to
>>>>> the
>>>>> Porthaven and Kingsbury entrances of the castle might be a subtle nod
>>>>> to
>>>>> *Dark
>>>>> Lord*. Though in truth it made him look more like a dwarf than a
>>>>> wizard.
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Did anybody answer Cathy's question?
>>>>
>>>> It's many years since I saw that film, but I would connect the beard
>>>> with
>>>> those two cloaks of disguise that Michael and Sophie used in the book -
>>>> one
>>>> made you look like a man with a beard, the other like a horse.  I think
>>>> Howl even told Sophie to "take off that awful beard" or something at one
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> Philip.
>>>>
>>>>
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