[DWJ] Mark Reads Deep Secret

Deborah Meghnagi Bailey deborah at brightweavings.com
Wed Mar 19 09:58:47 EDT 2014

For me, it's her references to fat people that I find off-putting, although
it was interesting that Mark commented that she was showing fat people
socializing in a normal context, and that was therefore a positive thing. I
do think some fat prejudice maybe crept into her later works. I'd be happy
to be told I'm wrong, but I saw a little here, and a little in Enchanted
Glass. Which saddened me, particularly since Nan Pilgrim, in Witch Week, was
an absolutely wonderful and unabashedly plump/fat and plain heroine.

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> (I've had a harder time finding out the difference between Roma and 
> Romani in English, but as I understand it, the Roma are a subgroup of 
> the Romani, and the word "gypsy" encompasses other unrelated people as 
> well.)

Thank you for correcting my terminology. I'm pretty sure that is the case in
English as well.

> There are instances where I side-eye DWJ a bit. This one, I just go, 
> "eh, not up with the terms,"

Exactly --  and as you say, standards have changed on this one.
We are using 2014 to talk about a book  published 17 years ago (holy crap),
although even by contemporary standards, while I know some people try to
avoid the word,  you would not believe some of the awful portrayals of
Romani people and Irish travelers that turn up in books I've reviewed that
are published this year.

I really like what you said in your earlier email, that the people in that
community have come up with an ideological stance, and it's certainly not a
harmful one, so good for them for sticking to it in their house, even if
it's not the same one we would necessarily use in ours.


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