[DWJ] Impress of first book? (Fire & Hemlock) (most: Spellcoats)

Deborah Meghnagi Bailey deborah at brightweavings.com
Thu Apr 14 01:34:47 EDT 2011


I'm pretty sure the first one I read was Witch Week, around the age of 8 or
9, as I wrote in my tribute to DWJ. It's certainly the one I *kept*, so it
stayed with me because I reread it. I'm fairly sure I also read Magicians of
Caprona and Tale of Time City as a young child (under 10) and I really
wanted to read them again and they stayed in my mind for years, until I was
old enough to buy them myself. Witch Week certainly remained a favourite,
although possibly not quite on the order of Archer's Goon and Fire and
Hemlock, which I found as a young teenager, probably about 13 yrs old, or
Hexwood and Deep Secret, which I found when I was already in my twenties. I
would probably cite those as my top four favourites, in no particular order
- different books for different moods. 

I was bullied in primary school, so I certainly related to Witch Week. I
still think it is the best depiction of how it feels, and of how bullies
operate, that I have ever read.

And now a question to the masses. I own the Dalemark Quartet, but I've never
actually read it. I think I tried one of them, but didn't get into it, but
so long ago I don't remember anything. Is the chronology of the books
different from the order of publication? Should I read them in order of
publication, or in a different order?

Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: dwj-bounces at suberic.net [mailto:dwj-bounces at suberic.net] On Behalf Of
Ellen Willcox
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 8:27 AM
To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion
Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (Fire & Hemlock) (most:
Spellcoats)

I don't know whether I read Dogsbody or Howl's Moving Castle first - I read
and reread both at my library starting when I was about eight.  HMC has
always, always been my favorite, though.

I should reread Dogsbody, actually.  It's been so long, it'll probably be a
new book to me . . .

Just a few years ago, I read a fantasy story written by a friend of mine
that tied in with a lot of Celtic history and myth.  It had a Wild Hunt in
it, and when I read that bit, I said something between, "Wow, what a
coincidence!" and, "You poor person, you've accidentally borrowed this
concept from Diana Wynne Jones."  Turned out my friend had never read
Dogsbody, and had her Wild Hunt stuff from the extensive research she'd done
on the mythology.  :P  Of course, this is put into perspective when I
reflect on the fact that, as a child, I credited DWJ with the invention of
Wales.

- Nic



On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Mary Osborne <m_osborne at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> The first one I read was Fire & Hemlock.  Maybe not the most typical,
> but then they are all unique.  I still enjoy re-reading it.  After that
> I devoured anything else I could find and anything to emerge since.  If
> I had to choose, my Desert Island pick would be Spellcoats, although it
> would be a wrench to split it from the rest of Dalemark.  And I don't
> think it is actually my favourite, just the one that stays with me most.
>
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> >    5. Re: Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders) (Otter Perry)
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> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:57:58 -0500
> > From: Jameela Lares <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>
> > Subject: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
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> > In responses to A. M. Winslow's post below, I have been wondering if the
> > first DWJ one reads influences one ever after.  My first was Tale of
Time
> > City, which I still love. There are probably books I love as much or
even
> > more--Howl's Moving Castle, The Lives of Christopher Chant--but in my
> > mind I always have DWJ's books lined up after that first one.
> >
> > Jameela Lares
> > Professor of English
> > The University of Southern Mississippi
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> > Hattiesburg, MS  39406-0001
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> A.M.
> > Winslow [debrisoftheages at yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:58 AM
> > To: dwj at suberic.net
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Homeward Bounders
> >
> > The Homeward Bounders was actually the first of DWJ's books that I read.
> > I was about twelve at the time, and writing a (horrifically bad) novel
> > about a character who traveled to different parallel worlds (I was
fairly
> > obsessed with quantum physics at the time, a phase which quickly left
> > me).  I was also a very lonely person.  My sister had recommended a DWJ
> > book -- Charmed Life, I think -- but the only one I could find at the
> > bookstore was the Homeward Bounders.  I bought it -- and absolutely
> > devoured it.  It was, in my opinion, the perfect book -- exactly the
book
> > I wanted to have written in place of my horrific one, if only I had the
> > skill.  There's something in that book which has always touched me on a
> > level none of the others have; I felt like I had a personal connection
to
> > the protagonist -- which is depressing, I guess -- or would be, except
> > that I'm not longer either twelve or desperately lonely.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:28:37 +0200
> > From: Katarina Hj?rpe <katarina.hjarpe at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> > To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTimr_t2xyb21-pWBX7-Q-RTneJLZDA at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I can't remember which DWJ story was my first one! It was obviously one
> > of
> > the books I've read in Swedish, which means the most likely candidates
> > are
> > Howl's Moving Castle, Power of Three, The Lives of Christopher Chant, or
> > Dogsbody. (The other books I've read in Swedish I distinctly remember
> > searching out, except for Archer's Goon, which I found by accident.)
> >
> > I think probably Power of Three was my first, since I have a suspicion I
> > got
> > it from a book club. But Howl... has definitely been a larger influence
> > on
> > me, so maybe that was first after all? OTOH, the view of wars in Po3 has
> > played into my adult psyche as well, so maybe not.
> >
> > Katarina
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Jameela Lares
> > <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>wrote:
> >
> > > In responses to A. M. Winslow's post below, I have been wondering if
> the
> > > first DWJ one reads influences one ever after.  My first was Tale of
> Time
> > > City, which I still love. There are probably books I love as much or
> even
> > > more--Howl's Moving Castle, The Lives of Christopher Chant--but in my
> mind I
> > > always have DWJ's books lined up after that first one.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:05:29 -0700
> > From: Debbie Gascoyne <dgascoyne at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> > To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTimzRoiinf7O6UfPL3XOm2un+TiiMQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > My first one was _Charmed Life_, and I remember the thrill of discovery!
> > Here was an author I'd never read, whose books were exactly the kind of
> > books I loved.  I think the next one was _The Ogre Downstairs_, and I've
> > always had a soft spot for that one.  I think I will always love her
> > "middle" works -The Power of Three, Time of the Ghost, Fire and Hemlock,
> > The
> > Homeward Bounders, and the earlier Chrestomanci's, the best, because
they
> > seemed then so startling and new, and every one was different.
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:09:58 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Devra <devra at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> > To: dwj at suberic.net
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> >
> >
> > You may right.  I believe that POWER of THREE was the first one I read,
> > and I have always adored it.
> >
> > Devra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jameela Lares <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>
> > To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
> > Sent: Tue, Apr 12, 2011 12:01 pm
> > Subject: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> >
> >
> > In responses to A. M. Winslow's post below, I have been wondering if the
> > first
> > WJ one reads influences one ever after.  My first was Tale of Time City,
> > which
> >  still love. There are probably books I love as much or even
more--Howl's
> > oving Castle, The Lives of Christopher Chant--but in my mind I always
> > have
> > WJ's books lined up after that first one.
> > Jameela Lares
> > rofessor of English
> > he University of Southern Mississippi
> > 18 College Drive, #5037
> > attiesburg, MS  39406-0001
> > 01 266-4319 ofc
> > 01 266-5757 fax
> > _______________________________________
> > rom: dwj-bounces at suberic.net [dwj-bounces at suberic.net] On Behalf Of A.M.
> > inslow [debrisoftheages at yahoo.co.uk]
> > ent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:58 AM
> > o: dwj at suberic.net
> > ubject: Re: [DWJ] Homeward Bounders
> > The Homeward Bounders was actually the first of DWJ's books that I read.
> > I was
> > bout twelve at the time, and writing a (horrifically bad) novel about a
> > haracter who traveled to different parallel worlds (I was fairly
obsessed
> > with
> > uantum physics at the time, a phase which quickly left me).  I was also
a
> > very
> > onely person.  My sister had recommended a DWJ book -- Charmed Life, I
> > think --
> > ut the only one I could find at the bookstore was the Homeward Bounders.
> > I
> > ought it -- and absolutely devoured it.  It was, in my opinion, the
> > perfect
> > ook -- exactly the book I wanted to have written in place of my horrific
> > one,
> > f only I had the skill.  There's something in that book which has always
> > ouched me on a level none of the others have; I felt like I had a
> > personal
> > onnection to the protagonist -- which is depressing, I guess -- or would
> > be,
> > xcept that I'm not longer either twelve or desperately lonely.
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> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 16:15:32 -0600
> > From: Otter Perry <ottertee at silverwinggraphics.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> > To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > My first one, IIRC, was _The Magicians of Caprona_. It's not my
favorite,
> > which I would be
> > hard-pressed to identify.
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Devra wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > You may right.  I believe that POWER of THREE was the first one I
read,
> and I have always adored it.
> > >
> > > Devra
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> >
> > If you are or ever have been a girl, you know that girls are
> > aggressive. This is news the way the Code of Hammurabi
> > is news.
> >
> >                                           ?science writer Natalie Angier
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:00:46 -0400
> > From: " Sally Odgers " <sally at sallyodgers.com>
> > Subject: Re: [DWJ] Impress of first book? (was Homeward Bounders)
> > To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>,     Otter Perry
> >       <ottertee at silverwinggraphics.com>
> > Message-ID: <20110412220046.dbw6mb4e8fi6sc4g at webmail.cs.aplus.net>
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> >
> > I'm pretty sure Dogsbody was my first one. Next, I think, was Power of
> > Three. I loved the first 2/3 but the rest didn't work as well for me.
> > Then I got hold of Howl, I think (or F&H read them around the same
> > time) and was instantly, deeply, entranced. My favourites are Howl
> > and?Deep Secret, with several others jostling for runner-up.?
> >
> > Sally Odgers
> > ?
> >
> >
> >
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