[DWJ] "Orthogonal" (orthogonally to T-shirt slogans)

estairm at yahoo.com estairm at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 11 03:07:10 EDT 2010

I agree that Hebrew pronunciation is irrelevant to English pronunciation.  But in many cases, that is a pity, because the name comes out ugly or silly in English, but it beautiful in Hebrew.  Like poor old jumpin' Jehosaphat in English -- Yoshafaht is much nicer.  Not to mention Hepzibah --Cheftzibah sounds much better and has a meaningful story behind it, too. It means My Desire is for Her. And that is a reversal of the curse of Eve, where her desire would be for the man, which is painful if not requited.


From: Colin Fine <colin at fine.me.uk>
To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 4:26:04 PM
Subject: Re: [DWJ] "Orthogonal" (orthogonally to T-shirt slogans)

A.M. Winslow wrote:
> But of what possible relevance to English is the Hebrew pronunciation?
> Honestly?  Not a whole lot.  I agree that regular names which are also in English (such as Sarah) should just be pronounced the English way.  It's when you're reading all those more obscure names in the Old Testament that a pronunciation guide comes more in handy.  As a theology student, this comes up rather a lot for me.  I could read "Joshua" and even "Nehemiah" fine, but Achan, Merathaim, Kohathite, and Jahleel (and even Michal) and such are a little trickier, and Shuthelah, Zelophehad, Almon Diblathaim, and Jotbatha are more fun still.  When you have to read them out loud and keep them straight, being able to at least guess at a pronunciation helps.
I agree absolutely that a pronunciation guide is desirable, because some of them aren't obvious; it's just that it has nothing to do with Hebrew.
My great grandfather was Yekhezkel (commonly known as Khatzah) but that gives you no clue to how we pronounce Ezekiel.
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