[DWJ] "Orthogonal" (orthogonally to T-shirt slogans)

Elizabeth Parks henx19 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 8 20:04:56 EDT 2010

I googled "wine-dark sea," and came up with "oinops pontos" (from a
wikipedia page on oral tradition), and then I googled "oinops pontos" and

did you mean oops photos?  celebrity oops photos?  britney spears oops

and I found myself a little speechless.

I don't speak Greek of any age, at all, so I bow to Roger's superior
un-translation (though I did, when looking into the origin of the phrase
"the sea, the sea!" come across some long thing about how it would have
been, in that time and in that type of Greek, "thalatta, thalatta!" instead
of "thalassa, thalassa!")


On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Roger Burton West <roger at firedrake.org>wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 06:17:11PM -0400, devra at aol.com wrote:
> >What about the wine-dark sea, which somewhere I read should be more
> properly translated as 'the fish-filled sea'?
> No, it is "oinomelaina thalassa", and that's a literal translation.
> (Bearing in mind this is your thick Greek-type wine, and it's the
> darkness rather than the colour that's being talked about.)
> R
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