[DWJ] T-shirt slogans

Eleanor Joslin eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk
Fri Jun 4 11:34:23 EDT 2010

Good questions. She didn't invent the ghost of Able Mabel either, so a  
T-shirt that quoted that would not necessarily be quoting her, even if  
*really* it was. (Google says Able Mable is a band based in Bristol --  
nice coincidence.)

Wouldn't something so short fall under fair use?

Anyway, I only intended to talk about hypothetical T-shirts, although  
it saddens me that I don't own a DWJ T-shirt, when I do have some for  
Lois McMaster Bujold (from an online store that I assume is operating  
with her permission, since it's linked from her "official" website),  
Harry Potter (one with Warner copyright, one home-made using an iron- 
on transfer) and His Dark Materials (purchased in the National Theatre  

I'm glad people are having fun with this topic!


On 4 Jun 2010, at 16:15, "Sally Odgers" <sally at sallyodgers.com> wrote:

> I wonder at what point breach of copyright occurs in law? For  
> instance, if I made a shirt saying "Now Here"...that is a quote from  
> F&H, but also a potential quote from I dunnamenny other books. How  
> identifiable would a quote have to be?
> Say if someone wore a shirt with "Flax" on it.That would be a direct  
> quote from one of my books, and  from many, many others.  If it said  
> "Flax Lilykicker", then it would be "a million to one" (and I'm now  
> quoting from the musical version of War of the Worlds" that it did  
> refer to the character from "Flax the Feral Fairy".  Please note,  
> I'm not asking this with the intention of breaking anyone's  
> copyright. I'm just curious.
> Sally Odgers
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:37:24 -0500, Farah Mendlesohn wrote:
> Folks:
>> Your enthusiasm is laudable and I have had some lovely chortles  
>> over the
>> slogans But! If someone goes ahead and makes these t-shirts and  
>> charges
>> *even break even only costs* you will have breached Diana's  
>> copyright.
>> May I suggest that whoever is interested in doing this contacts  
>> Diana, asks
>> permission and asks her if there is a charity they can donate a  
>> small profit
>> to?
>> cheers
>> Farah
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