[DWJ] T-shirt slogans

Ellen Willcox eawil3 at email.wm.edu
Thu Jun 3 23:22:42 EDT 2010


What about a shirt designed to look like it came from PhantasmaCon of
Deep Secret?  Maybe on the front it could say "PhantasmaCon 2010,
Hotel Babylon, Wantchester," and on the back either a line from the
book or something about the con.  ("Providing a plausible backdrop for
the gathering of potential Magids since 2000!")

- Nic



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> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:54:33 +0100
> From: Charlie Butler <charles.hannibal at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] waving to new folks
> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
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> On 3 June 2010 18:54, Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk> wrote:
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>>
>> Langford is a personal friend of Diana's; the wording of the
>> announcement in Ansible was read to her over the phone and given the OK.
>>
>
>
> I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it would have gone into
> *Ansible *without
> DWJ's prior approval, if that's how it came across. I just surmised from the
> by-line on the *Ansible* site that you had been the conduit.
>
> Charlie
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 20:21:51 +0100
> From: Charlie Butler <charles.hannibal at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
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> For teaching, I'd quite like "I don't want to hear what the structuralists
> think!" Except, of course, that nor do my students.
>
> Perhaps some variants on New Hero, Where Now?, and so on.
>
> Charlie
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:03:55 +0100
> From: Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] waving to new folks
> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
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> Charlie Butler wrote:
>> On 3 June 2010 18:54, Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Langford is a personal friend of Diana's; the wording of the
>> > announcement in Ansible was read to her over the phone and given the OK.
>> >
>>
>>
>> I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it would have gone into
>> *Ansible *without
>> DWJ's prior approval, if that's how it came across. I just surmised from the
>> by-line on the *Ansible* site that you had been the conduit.
>
> He really didn't want to have to do it, so I asked her, and that made it
> easier for him.  And it did need to be sent out to all the people who
> know her from conventions.
>
> I didn't think you were being snide or anything of the sort!  Dave just
> wanted to weep on my shoulder a bit about it and after that it became a
> combined effort, to try to get the wording for *Ansible* right and get
> it approved.
>
> Minnow
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:30:54 +0100
> From: Philip Belben <philip at axeside.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
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>> I would quite like a T-shirt that used Quentin's way of saying "I am not
>> planning to do that any time, certainly not any time soon":
>>
>> Consider It Done.
>
> Polly also said something of the sort to Seb, didn't she?
>
> I'd rather like a tee shirt with the sign "shen" on it.  If anyone knows
> how to draw it.  (Hmm.  I have a chinese colleague who has a dictionary
> organiosed alphabetically by pinyin spelling.  I must look it up in
> there...)
>
> If it has to be a slogan, I'd like "Go and ask an invisible dragon!"  Or
> maybe "I move in more than one wprld."  (Depending on what mood I'm in)
>
> (And I like the Chrestomanci idea too.)
>
> Philip.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:42:41 +1000
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> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:28:57 -0400
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> Hello!
>
> I would love to see the Chrestomanci-three-times shirt!  I also like
> the book-upside-down one.
>
> I am one of the new joiners, and was indeed alerted to this
> newsletter's existence by the LJ post.  Can't believe I somehow missed
> it before, but am thankful to have found it now!
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> - Nic
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>> ? 3. Re: T-shirt slogans (Katarina Hj?rpe)
>> ? 4. Re: T-shirt slogans (Ren? Fleischbein)
>> ? 5. Re: T-shirt slogans (Helen Schinske)
>> ? 6. Re: T-shirt slogans (Eleanor Joslin)
>> ? 7. Re: T-shirt slogans (Eleanor Joslin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:43:05 +0100
>> From: Eleanor Joslin <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> Subject: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
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>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give
>> the new members a chance to join in, I have a question. ?What lines from
>> DWJ's books would make good T-shirt slogans? ?And do any such T-shirts
>> exist?
>>
>> To start us off, it doesn't make much sense out of context, but I've
>> always liked "EMPTY YOUR POCKETS, CHANT!" from the scene in The Lives of
>> Christopher Chant where Christopher finds out why he can't do magic.
>>
>> ? ? ? ?Eleanor
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:08:51 -0700
>> From: "Helen Schinske" <hschinske at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <CA947B5F3E61402AB31BAC0D30ADC174 at Helenlaptop>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eleanor Joslin" <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:43 AM
>> Subject: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>>
>>
>>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give the
>>> new members a chance to join in, I have a question. ?What lines from DWJ's
>>> books would make good T-shirt slogans? ?And do any such T-shirts exist?
>>>
>>
>> I don't know if it's terribly T-shirty, but as an in joke it might be fun to
>> have a shirt that said "I am the ghost of Able Mabel!"
>>
>> Too long, but I've seen it as a sig: "She knew there was a rule about not
>> running in the corridors, but she was not sure it applied to people without
>> bodies." (quoted from memory, may not be quite accurate)
>>
>> Helen Schinske
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:16:26 +0200
>> From: Katarina Hj?rpe <katarina.hjarpe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Not very inventive, but how about just "Chrestomanci" written three times?
>>
>> Katta
>>
>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:21:37 -0500
>> From: Ren? Fleischbein <rene_fleischbein at hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <BAY136-W208E3B93DF8D8053F89CE5F2D10 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
>> "Are you in charge here?"
>>
>> -Mabel Brown in Enchanted Glass.
>>
>>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:43:05 +0100
>>> From: eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk
>>> To: dwj at suberic.net
>>> Subject: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>>>
>>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give
>>> the new members a chance to join in, I have a question. ?What lines from
>>> DWJ's books would make good T-shirt slogans? ?And do any such T-shirts
>>> exist?
>>>
>>> To start us off, it doesn't make much sense out of context, but I've
>>> always liked "EMPTY YOUR POCKETS, CHANT!" from the scene in The Lives of
>>> Christopher Chant where Christopher finds out why he can't do magic.
>>>
>>> ? ? ? Eleanor
>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:22:24 -0700
>> From: "Helen Schinske" <hschinske at aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <9C2CCFFE55054A5ABBE24550425536FC at Helenlaptop>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Katarina Hj?rpe" <katarina.hjarpe at gmail.com>
>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>>
>>
>>> Not very inventive, but how about just "Chrestomanci" written three times?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Especially if he's any good at plugging holes underwater (*discouraged
>> sigh*).
>>
>> Helen Schinske
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:23:31 +0100
>> From: Eleanor Joslin <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <4C07E513.6080700 at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 03/06/10 18:16, Katarina Hj?rpe wrote:
>>> Not very inventive, but how about just "Chrestomanci" written three times?
>>
>> I think that's perfect! ?What would you say when someone read it aloud?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:31:55 +0100
>> From: Eleanor Joslin <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <4C07E70B.6080205 at dreamvine.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Would get mistaken for a political shirt, but "The leaders of the future
>> are coming from below" from Drowned Ammet. ?Because he doesn't know how
>> right he is.
>>
>> On 03/06/10 18:08, Helen Schinske wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Joslin"
>>> <eleanor at dreamvine.org.uk>
>>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:43 AM
>>> Subject: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>>>
>>>
>>>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give
>>>> the new members a chance to join in, I have a question. What lines
>>>> from DWJ's books would make good T-shirt slogans? And do any such
>>>> T-shirts exist?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if it's terribly T-shirty, but as an in joke it might be
>>> fun to have a shirt that said "I am the ghost of Able Mabel!"
>>>
>>> Too long, but I've seen it as a sig: "She knew there was a rule about
>>> not running in the corridors, but she was not sure it applied to people
>>> without bodies." (quoted from memory, may not be quite accurate)
>>>
>>> Helen Schinske
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Dwj mailing list
>>> Dwj at suberic.net
>>> http://www.suberic.net/mailman/listinfo/dwj
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:54:42 +0100
>> From: Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] waving to new folks
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <4C07EC62.2080803 at belfry.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Charlie Butler wrote:
>>> I'm guessing it was this link on the LJ comm -
>>> http://community.livejournal.com/dianawynnejones/166945.html - itself
>>> prompted by a report about Diana's health in *Ansible*, passed on by (I
>>> think) Minnow.
>>>
>>> <http://community.livejournal.com/dianawynnejones/166945.html>Charlie
>>
>> Langford is a personal friend of Diana's; the wording of the
>> announcement in Ansible was read to her over the phone and given the OK.
>>
>> Minnow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:54:56 +0100
>> From: Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <4C07EC70.2040607 at belfry.org.uk>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Eleanor Joslin made a valiant effort:
>>
>>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give
>>> the new members a chance to join in, I have a question. ?What lines from
>>> DWJ's books would make good T-shirt slogans? ?And do any such T-shirts
>>> exist?
>>
>> I would quite like a T-shirt that used Quentin's way of saying "I am not
>> planning to do that any time, certainly not any time soon":
>>
>> Consider It Done.
>>
>> Minnow
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:59:06 +0100
>> From: "Dorian E. Gray" <dorianegray at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: "Diana Wynne Jones discussion" <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Message-ID: <2A0462B96267463BA94B9407B4282031 at Hecate>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> ? ? ? ?reply-type=original
>>
>> Katta suggested...
>>
>>> Not very inventive, but how about just "Chrestomanci" written three times?
>>
>> Oh, that's clever!
>>
>> I rather fancy "For the love of the strange gods of the heroes, don't do
>> that to the book!" ?Over, of course, an illustration of a book open
>> face-down.
>>
>> Until the sky falls on our heads...
>>
>> Dorian.
>> --
>> Dorian E. Gray
>> dorianegray at gmail.com
>> http://dorianegray.livejournal.com
>>
>> "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between
>> the disastrous and the unpalatable."
>> - J. K. Galbraith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:59:05 -0400
>> From: devra at aol.com
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>> To: dwj at suberic.net
>> Message-ID: <8CCD15D974DFF9A-1134-1414 at webmail-m007.sysops.aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>>
>> Didn't we once talk about a Cream-di-Lima teeshirt, as of a tour? ?I'm blurring on the details, but there were a bunch of places to be listed on the back....
>>
>> Devra, who is definitely brain-dead right now
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk>
>> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
>> Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 1:54 pm
>> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
>>
>>
>> Eleanor Joslin made a valiant effort:
>>
>>> In an attempt to cheer us up a bit after the recent bad news, and give > the new members a chance to join in, I have a question. What lines from > DWJ's books would make good T-shirt slogans? And do any such T-shirts > exist?
>>
>> I would quite like a T-shirt that used Quentin's way of saying "I am not
>> planning to do that any time, certainly not any time soon":
>>
>> Consider It Done.
>>
>> Minnow
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 19:41:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
> From: deborah.dwj at suberic.net
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
> To: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <alpine.WNT.2.00.1006031933541.3324 at penitence>
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> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Ellen Willcox wrote:
>> I would love to see the Chrestomanci-three-times shirt!
>
> Yes, that's one of my favorite of the suggestions.
>
> On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Philip Belben wrote:
>
>> I'd rather like a tee shirt with the sign "shen" on it.  If anyone knows how
>> to draw it.  (Hmm.  I have a chinese colleague who has a dictionary
>> organiosed alphabetically by pinyin spelling.  I must look it up in there...)
>
> That would be lovely, too.
>
> I wouldn't mind a "Free Holanders" shirt or a "Dumas Quartet".  Or one for the Clennen family singers ("featuring Dastgandlen Handagner, Cennoreth Manaliabrid, and Osfameron Tanamoril on cwidder!"). Or one that said:
>
> This shirt will prove the following ten facts:
>
> 1. A Goon is a being who melts into the foreground and sticks there.
> 2. Pigs have wings, making them hard to catch.
> 3. All power corrupts, but we need electricity.
> 4. When an irresistible force meets an immovable object, the result
>    is a family fight.
> 5. Music does not always sooth the troubled breast.
> 6. An Englishman's home is his castle.
> 7. The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
> 8. One black eye deserves another.
> 9. Space is the final frontier, and so is the sewage farm.
> 10. It pays to increase your word power.
>
>
> Nic again:
>> I am one of the new joiners, and was indeed alerted to this
>> newsletter's existence by the LJ post.
>
> Hi and welcome!
>
> -deborah
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:53:02 +0800
> From: "Kylie Ding" <kylie_ding at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] T-shirt slogans
> To: "'Diana Wynne Jones discussion'" <dwj at suberic.net>
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> Hathaway, send a bus!
>
>>
>> Hathaway!
>>
>>
>
> Kylie
>
>
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