[DWJ] Re: Gotten, was Re: DWJ on Bujold

Colin Fine colin at fine.me.uk
Fri May 23 20:42:24 EDT 2008


Minnow wrote:
>> Helen wrote:
>>     
>>> I think it's similar to the "ge-" prefix on past participles in German --
>>> that is what it "felt" like :-)
>>>       
>
> deborah commented
>
>   
>> I don't speak any Yiddish (well, some Yinglish), but I've grown
>> up around enough of it that this German prefix is part of my
>> vocabulary in certain rude instances. As in "at the end of
>> Archer's Goon, Archer's plans get totally gefucked."
>>
>> Interestingly, the English equivalent of "be-" is a prefix I add
>> on other words, but not rude ones. For example, "help! I've been
>> becatted!"
>>     
>
> I suppose that the English word 'bespatter' has its 'be' ultimately from
> the same source, also 'begrime', 'besmear', 'belittle' -- in fact most of
> the ones I think of immediately are boo-words, apart from 'become'!
>
>   
Bejewel, beget, bedizen, beloved, begin, bestir, belong are positive or 
neutral.  But I agree that the majority are negative in connotation.

Colin



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