[DWJ] Re: Gotten, was Re: DWJ on Bujold

Joe oddenda at gmail.com
Fri May 16 16:58:42 EDT 2008

My brother came up with the term "Zeitgift" last Christmas - a gift 
that captures the spirit of the times, I suppose. Schott's Original 
Miscellany for 2002, that kind of thing.

Just sharing it in case anyone finds it useful.


On 16 May 2008, at 02:34, Paul Andinach wrote:

> On Thu, 15 May 2008, Roger Burton West wrote:
>> While it may well have decent historical antecedents, I think it's 
>> still reasonable to deplore the recent popularity of "gifting" in its 
>> association with guilt-based consumerism and Xmas: for example, a 
>> label of "gifting chocolates" (i.e. we don't expect you to buy these 
>> for yourself).
> There's a 1974 episode of "My Word!" where Denis Norden rants about 
> 'gifts' (as distinct from 'presents'), which he defines as products 
> that exist solely to be given as presents, exclaimed over, and then 
> put away somewhere and forgotten - things when have no actual value
> in themselves, like... well, like most of the things in mail-order
> catalogues.
> Actually admitting it on the packet is a new one on me, though.
> Paul
> -- 
> "Hold fast to the one noble thing."
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