[DWJ] Re: Gotten, was Re: DWJ on Bujold
ottertee at silverwinggraphics.com
Wed May 14 16:54:01 EDT 2008
Nobody's forgetting that "gotten" is perfectly acceptable
on the west side of the pond, right?
On May 14, 2008, at 1:45 PM, Minnow wrote:
>> jenne at fiedlerfamily.net wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 06:52:17PM +0100, Minnow wrote:
>>> OED: 1. Obtained, acquired, won (chiefly with accompanying
>>> adverb). Now
>>> rare, exc. in ILL-GOTTEN.
> and Colin demurred:
>> Yes, but that adjectival use is not in contention. It is
>> acceptable on
>> both sides of the Atlantic, and I think equally rare both sides. I
>> what Minnow was talking about (though she was not specific about
>> it) was
>> 'gotten' as the past participle of 'got'.
> Yes; sorry, that was what I meant.
> 'Verbs that go to en' once led to me making a list, I forget why,
> and to my
> astonishment it is still around in a file called 'en-words'.
> bound, bounden (for bounded) deliberately archaic
> Braze, brazen (for brazed) deliberately archaic
> carve, carven (for carved) deliberately archaic
> chide, chidden deliberately archaic
> drive, driven normal
> get, gotten (for got) deliberately archaic
> give, given normal
> prove, proven (for proved) deliberately archaic
> rive, riven deliberately archaic
> strive, ? striven (?for strived?) deliberately archaic
> write, written normal
> bright, brighten normal
> fright, frighten normal
> heighten (not "height" as a verb) normal
> lighten (ditto) normal
> light down, lighten down (for lighted down) deliberately archaic
> Goodness knows what that was about: perhaps I had been reading
> fantasy too much, or something. That last example does look that way!
> Anyone got any I ought to add, while I know where they all are? :-)
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