[DWJ] Lurkers on the List

liril at gmx.net liril at gmx.net
Wed Mar 28 07:52:17 EDT 2007

Hello to everybody from a part-time lurker :-)

Whilst I understand the idea of "NP-signs", to me that would feel like a bit like a "probation period" (that's what we have in Germany when you get your driving license). As if you had to prove "worthy" of posting like the regulars. Which - I think - you don't :-) 

And as this list is a very friendly place, there isn't much "carving up viciously" going on, anyway (you can tell I'm quite taken with the car metaphor). 

What you can do, as a newbie or, as non native speaker, is put up a disclaimer if you feel it's needed. Personally, I write from time to time "English is not my native language, so if this or that is unclear or sounds a bit odd, go easy on me". However, I would not like to write "NNS" in every mail ;-)

And, on the general subject of piping up from time to time: Every comment makes this list come alive. And whilst we all enjoy literary discussions, I fondly remember discussing foods of all sorts. And somebody writing LoCC was a favorite because it makes - er? - headaches? go away (I don't quite recall it). Or collecting lists of the funniest DWJ scenes, or the saddest.

So, have some virtual cucumber sandwiches and join the fun whenever you feel like it.


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:26:25 +0100
Von: Minnow <minnow at belfry.org.uk>
An: Diana Wynne Jones discussion <dwj at suberic.net>
Betreff: Re: [DWJ] Lurkers on the List

> Gosh, the lurkers came out of the long grass this morning!  Lovely!  Lots
> of welcoming noises all round 'cos it would be OTT to reply with a hello
> to
> each of them individually -- maybe the List could run to a virtual cake
> and
> some cucumber sandwiches and have a tea-party for all of us whilst we
> introduce ourselves and get talking?  (Well, it was worth a try...)
> I've always slightly wondered whether there ought to be some way for
> people
> on lists to indicate that they're new to posting even if they have been
> reading a list for ages.  Learner drivers display an L-plate so the
> experienced road-hogs can cut them a bit of slack and not carve them up
> too
> viciously, and these days new drivers seem to display a green P-plate to
> indicate "yes, I have passed my test but I'm still a bit nervous, please
> don't hoot at me if I stall the car".  Maybe something like that might
> help
> to boost the confidence of new arrivals at what amounts to a pub-gathering
> where many of the people have known each other on-line and in person for
> months or years.
> How it would work I'm not sure, though, and how one would decide one had
> truly "arrived" and no longer needed to display it would also be a
> dilemma.
> But then I have always wondered how people decide when to take that green
> P-plate off their car!
> The other difficulty of course would be how new lurkers would discover
> what
> the "I'm a new poster" sign was.  They might just lurk for ages wondering
> why some posts had the letters "NP" at the top and feeling that the list
> was full of coded signals they didn't understand.  Bother.
> Any suggestions?  Would it work?  How would it work?  Would it help and
> make life easier for new arrivals, or would it just make them feel even
> more conspicuous?
> Minnow
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