[DWJ] A grammar realization - Where are we from?

Minnow minnow at belfry.org.uk
Fri Apr 13 06:13:23 EDT 2007


Philip:

>>>> On an only partially related note, has anyone ever come across the
>>>> phrase
>>>> 'Mote it be', outside a Masonic or Wiccan context? It just feels
>>>> sort of,
>>>> er... made up.

Minnow:

>>> I *think* it may be in Spenser.  But I am *not* going all the way
>>> through
>>> the Fairie Queene looking for it!

Otter:

>> It is in Spenser.  It seems to have been a perfectly acceptable way
>> to say "it might be".
>>
>> The Wiccan/Masonic context seems to be "so mote it be" as in
>> 'so be it'. Why can't they just say 'amen'?  Without getting too
>> deeply into Macbeth's problems with the word 'amen' ...

Colin:

>"I blushed and stammered so that she exclaimed,
>'Can these be men?' Then, seeing this, 'Why, these --
>'/Are men'/, she would have added, but '/are men'/
>Stuck in her throat!"
> - W.S. Gilbert, /Princess Ida, /II. 597-600

On this occasion perhaps more like "Argh. Men."

:-)  Got over Easter yet, Colin?

Minnow





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