[DWJ] A grammar realization - Where are we from?

Colin Fine colin at kindness.demon.co.uk
Fri Apr 13 05:39:40 EDT 2007

Otter Perry wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Minnow wrote:
>>> On 12/04/07, Belben, Philip (Energy Wholesale) 
>>> <Philip.Belben at eon-uk.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> On an only partially related note, has anyone ever come across the 
>>> phrase
>>> 'Mote it be', outside a Masonic or Wiccan context? It just feels 
>>> sort of,
>>> er... made up.
>> I *think* it may be in Spenser.  But I am *not* going all the way 
>> through
>> the Fairie Queene looking for it!
> It is in Spenser.  It seems to have been a perfectly acceptable way
> to say "it might be".
> The Wiccan/Masonic context seems to be "so mote it be" as in
> 'so be it'. Why can't they just say 'amen'?  Without getting too
> deeply into Macbeth's problems with the word 'amen' ...

"I blushed and stammered so that she exclaimed,
'Can these be men?' Then, seeing this, 'Why, these --
'/Are men'/, she would have added, but '/are men'/
Stuck in her throat!"
 - W.S. Gilbert, /Princess Ida, /II. 597-600


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