[DWJ] Howling History

Aimee Smith s4028253 at student.uq.edu.au
Wed May 3 05:35:50 EDT 2006


Gold!
Thanks Minnow! Thanks DWJ!
What a great little story!
I shared it with my littlest sister (12 years old), who listened  
intently with a huge grin then went jumping around the room.
How very Howl!
Somehow, I still wouldn't mind a Howl prequel.
Hee.
:)
Aimee.


On 03/05/2006, at 2:00 AM, dwj-request at suberic.net wrote:

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>    3. Re: Howl's dissertation on spells (Elizabeth Bentley)
>    4. Re: Howl's dissertation on spells (minnow at belfry.org.uk)
>    5. RE: Howl's dissertation on spells (Kyra Jucovy)
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>    7. RE: Howl's dissertation on spells (Rowland, Jennifer A B)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:12:44 +0100
> From: minnow at belfry.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
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>>>>> The other thing I wonder is whether Howl could do magic before he
>>>>> started working on his dissertation and picked it because he had
>>>>> special access, or if he started learning how to do it for real
>>>>> while working on his dissertation.Ý I think the latter would make
>>>>> for a really good story
>>>>
>>>> Now there's a prequel we'd all be interested in. How did Howell
>>>> Jenkins find his way into Ingary?
>
> Finding myself in a fury and a car, I sought refuge with my main  
> spiritual
> safety-valve, and whilst I was being gently coaxed back innto a  
> semi-human
> state I asked her about this point.
>
> Howell Jenkins played rugby for Swansea University, and his  
> doctoral thesis
> was on Spells -- his first degree was in Philosophy (probably  
> Philosophy
> with something-or-other, but his interest was philosophy).  One day he
> found himself being pursued by the four brothers of a young lady he'd
> played ever so slightly fast-and-loose with (no surprises there)  
> who were
> chanting "Blood for Blod!" as they chased him down the street.   
> Each of
> them was a huge forward who seemed to plan to use Howell's head for  
> a ball.
> Luckily a wing can generally run faster than a forward, and he stayed
> ahead of them as he made for the shelter of his sister's house,  
> galloping
> up the steep streets and skidding on the corners like a centaur.   He
> wasn't a magical practitioner in Wales, but he had been reading some
> particularly interesting spells that week, and as he ran he recited  
> one of
> them; his hand on the doorknob of the house he intended to take  
> refuge in,
> he cried out the final word of this spell, and as the door opened  
> found
> that instead of his sister's hall, it opened into Mrs.  
> Pentstemmon's foyer.
> Since the pursuit was hot on his heels, he didn't hesitate, but dived
> through the door and slammed it behind him.
>
> So now we know.  That's how he got into Ingary.  Of course, once he  
> had
> demonstrated such powerful and completely untrained magical  
> ability, Mrs. P
> had to train him, or there was no telling what trouble he might  
> cause by
> accident.
>
> It really wasn't her fault that after she *had* trained him, he still
> caused trouble both by accident and on purpose.  It was simply in his
> nature.
>
> Minnow
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:12:44 +0100
> From: minnow at belfry.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [DWJ] Howl movie
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <v02120d5dc04637fc6864@[172.17.1.255]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> A long time ago I didn't send a quibble, which I have just found  
> lurking in
> the out-box:
>
>>> deborah
>>>
>>>> *wonders what a zoi is*
>
> Minnow:
>>> Don't we all?
>>>
>
> Jon suggested
>
>> I think its rather like a Mcguffin only smaller, and a
>> bit, you know, different.
>
> But I thought the point of a McGuffin was that it had no point,  
> whereas we
> are told that the Zoi is shaped like a pine-cone, so it does have a  
> point?
>
> Minnow
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 20:22:00 +0100
> From: Elizabeth Bentley <elizabeth at wardrobe-on-the-web.com>
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <C07C1E68.251CC%elizabeth at wardrobe-on-the-web.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> On 1/5/06 17:12, "minnow at belfry.org.uk" <minnow at belfry.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Howell Jenkins played rugby for Swansea University, and his  
>> doctoral thesis
>> was on Spells -- his first degree was in Philosophy (probably  
>> Philosophy
>> with something-or-other, but his interest was philosophy).  One  
>> day he
>> found himself being pursued by the four brothers of a young lady he'd
>> played ever so slightly fast-and-loose with (no surprises there)  
>> who were
>> chanting "Blood for Blod!" as they chased him down the street.
>
> That's a relief - I had been surprised at the idea of rugby thugs,  
> as rugby
> types are generally quite civilised, unlike soccer ones, at least  
> in the UK.
> But if there was a sister in the case ...
>
> EB
> Elizabeth Bentley
> elizabeth at wardrobe-on-the-web.com
>
> " '... I have been run over by the speeding chariot of fate and  
> caught up in
> its spiked wheels.'
> ' I hate it when that happens,' said Stephen." (Indiscretion by  
> Jude Morgan)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 20:43:48 +0100
> From: minnow at belfry.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <v02120d4dc07c12ee0f15@[172.17.1.255]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>> On 1/5/06 17:12, "minnow at belfry.org.uk" <minnow at belfry.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Howell Jenkins played rugby for Swansea University, and his  
>>> doctoral thesis
>>> was on Spells -- his first degree was in Philosophy (probably  
>>> Philosophy
>>> with something-or-other, but his interest was philosophy).  One  
>>> day he
>>> found himself being pursued by the four brothers of a young lady  
>>> he'd
>>> played ever so slightly fast-and-loose with (no surprises there)  
>>> who were
>>> chanting "Blood for Blod!" as they chased him down the street.
>
> Elizabeth Bentley sighed:
>> That's a relief - I had been surprised at the idea of rugby thugs,  
>> as rugby
>> types are generally quite civilised, unlike soccer ones, at least  
>> in the UK.
>> But if there was a sister in the case ...
>
> 'Ey, 'owl is like Speedy: 'e knows *everyone's* seester!
>
> (Fastest wing in all, erm, Carmarthenshire... No, it doesn't quite  
> work,
> does it.  Oh well, back to the drawing-board.)
>
> Minnow
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 17:02:00 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Kyra Jucovy <klj at sccs.swarthmore.edu>
> Subject: RE: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID:
> 	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0605011700480.23893 at osprey.sccs.swarthmore.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Mon, 1 May 2006 minnow at belfry.org.uk wrote:
>
>> Finding myself in a fury and a car, I sought refuge with my main  
>> spiritual
>> safety-valve, and whilst I was being gently coaxed back innto a  
>> semi-human
>> state I asked her about this point.
>>
>> Howell Jenkins played rugby for Swansea University, and his  
>> doctoral thesis
>> was on Spells -- his first degree was in Philosophy (probably  
>> Philosophy
>> with something-or-other, but his interest was philosophy).  One  
>> day he
>> found himself being pursued by the four brothers of a young lady he'd
>> played ever so slightly fast-and-loose with (no surprises there)  
>> who were
>> chanting "Blood for Blod!" as they chased him down the street.   
>> Each of
>> them was a huge forward who seemed to plan to use Howell's head  
>> for a ball.
>> Luckily a wing can generally run faster than a forward, and he stayed
>> ahead of them as he made for the shelter of his sister's house,  
>> galloping
>> up the steep streets and skidding on the corners like a centaur.   He
>> wasn't a magical practitioner in Wales, but he had been reading some
>> particularly interesting spells that week, and as he ran he  
>> recited one of
>> them; his hand on the doorknob of the house he intended to take  
>> refuge in,
>> he cried out the final word of this spell, and as the door opened  
>> found
>> that instead of his sister's hall, it opened into Mrs.  
>> Pentstemmon's foyer.
>> Since the pursuit was hot on his heels, he didn't hesitate, but dived
>> through the door and slammed it behind him.
>>
>> So now we know.  That's how he got into Ingary.  Of course, once  
>> he had
>> demonstrated such powerful and completely untrained magical  
>> ability, Mrs. P
>> had to train him, or there was no telling what trouble he might  
>> cause by
>> accident.
>>
>> It really wasn't her fault that after she *had* trained him, he still
>> caused trouble both by accident and on purpose.  It was simply in his
>> nature.
>>
>> Minnow
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> Oooh, thank you Minnow (and thanks, DWJ, too!).  That's a lovely  
> story,
> and very DWJ-ish, it's vaguely reminiscent of Charles in _Witch Week_
> whilst at the same time having a perfect Howl flavor ;-).  Would you
> and/or DWJ mind particularly if I shared this with people not on  
> the list?
>
> 						---Kyra
>
> ---
> "It's not usual practice for a High Court judge to issue a ruling  
> in which
> he has hidden an encrypted message."
> 					---Daniel Tench, quoted in NYT
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:25:21 +0100
> From: minnow at belfry.org.uk
> Subject: RE: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: Diana Wynne Jones <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <v02120d00c07c2c9a25f9@[194.112.52.224]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>> Oooh, thank you Minnow (and thanks, DWJ, too!).  That's a lovely  
>> story,
>> and very DWJ-ish, it's vaguely reminiscent of Charles in _Witch Week_
>> whilst at the same time having a perfect Howl flavor ;-).  Would you
>> and/or DWJ mind particularly if I shared this with people not on  
>> the list?
>>
>>                                                ---Kyra
>
> As far as I know, having thought of it as something people might be
> interested to know about, DWJ is happy for it to be shared.  After  
> all, she
> doesn't know who-all might be on this list, and she told me to put  
> it here!
>
> As far as I am concerned, quote as you will, so long as you say that
> although the ideas are pure DWJ, the execution was mine, running as  
> fast as
> I could to keep up with her, ears flapping in the wind.  So any  
> infelicity
> of phrase isn't her fault, it's mine.
>
> Minnow
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:53:58 +0100
> From: "Rowland, Jennifer A B" <jennifer.rowland at imperial.ac.uk>
> Subject: RE: [DWJ] Howl's dissertation on spells
> To: "Diana Wynne Jones" <dwj at suberic.net>
> Message-ID: <76ECA97A30510E498EB5A97AB4A6AE21022C8B06 at icex1.ic.ac.uk>
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>> Elizabeth Bentley sighed:
>>> But if there was a sister in the case ...
>
> Minnow wrote:
>> 'Ey, 'owl is like Speedy: 'e knows *everyone's* seester!
>
> I'm being bitten by the flip side of liking something that not many
> people know about; having an instant response to that pop into my  
> head,
> and guessing that nobody else on the list will know what it means...
> such a lonely feeling :-)
>
> Still, because being wilfully obscure can be fun:
>
> -Hey, come on, stop arguing, I'll marry everyone's daughter!
>
> Jennifer
> [The Mighty Boosh radio series, episode 5, Tundra. Since you ask.]
> -- 
> How many times do I have to tell ya, reading leads to pure liquid  
> evil!
> It makes you smoke things!
> -Bob Fossil
>
>
>
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