[DWJ] Welsh pronunciation

Anna Zofia Skarzynska ania.s at tiscali.co.uk
Sun Mar 19 15:21:10 EST 2006

No, I don't think so- a carrion crow is, AFAIK, just a common crow (corvus 
corone), the black and familiar bird; cigfran is a raven (corvus corax).
The hoodie crow, with its grey 'waistcoat' was thought to be a separate 
species from the black one, but the thinking now is that it's just a plumage 
variation. I've never seen one in Britain, but they were quite common in 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Belben, Philip (Energy Wholesale)" <Philip.Belben at eon-uk.com>
To: "Diana Wynne Jones" <dwj at suberic.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 8:47 AM
Subject: RE: [DWJ] Welsh pronunciation

Charlie, passing on a message from Ania:

> So the literal translation is something like 'flesh-crow'- rather
> splendid, doncha think?

Is this the same bird that we English would call a carrion crow?

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