Christianity in the Chrestoverse

Jadwiga Zajaczkowa / Jenne Heise jenne at
Wed Jul 20 15:25:23 EDT 2005

> Which would make for some pretty different's said that the 
> split happened when our world turned more toward technology and XII A 
> turned more toward magic...I wonder if part of what caused the split was 
> the emergence of the Inquisition in our world?  I can't see the Inquisition 
> happening in a magic-oriented world (or not the way it did in our world, at 
> least), which would change things like colonisation and the way the New 
> World was dealt with at least somewhat.

Ok, I'm missing something. What about a magic-heavy world would 
discourage persecution of differing brands of heresy, not to mention 
converted Jews and Muslims who weren't really converted to Christianity?

Given the arm-waving among scientists (and among practitioners of 
ceremonial magic) for that matter about theory, I would assume that a 
Church office to standardize and control dogma would be encouraged by 
the spread of magic.

Or are you thinking of the witch persecutions? The emergence of 'The 
Inquisition' as a force of terror actually appears to be related to the 
Spanish Inquisition, which had to do with muslims and jews, not witches. 
The Roman Inquisition got all stuffed-shirt about Protestants. 

Most of the witchfinding and witch persecution our universe in Germany, 
England, Scotland and France seems  to have been more or less, ahem, 
autonomous, and there were sporadic attempts by the Churches at least in 
Germany to get rid of false witchfinders who were 'finding' witches 
based on getting a slice of their property. 

It's possible that an increase of magic might have lead to magical 
psychotherapy (thus curing that strange rash of men believing their 
phalluses had been removed) and aborted the problem, or that the office 
of Chrestomanci was instituted at that time-- certainly there were 
people even in our universe who believed that they were cursing other 
people, and if they turned out to be real witches, there would be a very 
strong and present need to do something about it. Thus instituting the 
office of the Chrestomanci would probably replace certain functions we 
historically think of as associated with religious authorities.

> On the other hand, I do, now that you mention it, wonder about the Church 
> of England-ness of that service in "Charmed Life".  *Could* the Anglican 
> church have developed so similarly in a world with magic and without the 
> Inquisition?  I can't off-hand think of a reason that Protestantism 
> wouldn't have developed, but there's the whole avalanche effect; once you 
> change one thing, other things change, and I begin to wonder if XII A could 
> really be so like our world.

Well, the Roman inquisition got it's big push from the existence of 
Protestantism, and the idea that some cultures could have refrained from 
splitting up the religion into different denominations by a change in 
the 14th century seems unlikely. The rise of magic might well have 
fuelled Protestantism, and religous wars fought with the help of magic 
are a terrifying prospect. 

-- Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne at 
"'In this world, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.' Well, for 
years I was smart. I recommend pleasant." - _Harvey_, by Mary Chase

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