Re Dratted Vampires (was re Roger's Intro form) and Nasty Children
vendersleighc at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 9 20:48:33 EST 2004
On the subject of not liking Buffy Rosie wrote
<and me as the third. Some Buffy-mad friends
invited me over for a
>Buffy-evening, certain that I would be
converted. I have no idea which
>episodes they showed me, but I laughed in the
bits that weren't meant
>to be funny and criticised almost every stroke
of a swordfight. For
>some reason they haven't tried again ...>
There are bits that aren't meant to be funny?
Minnow, on Dwj and vampires:
I can offer you one for here: I've heard her
being (for her) almost rude
about vampires in general: she finds them boring
beyond belief, as far as I
could make out. :-)>
Not that I'm trying to make you want to watch it
(perish the thought) but I also am fed up to the
back teeth with vampires, and was long before
Buffy came on the scene and yet I love it. It
seems to me to have as little in common with
vampire genre schlock as Dwj does with genre
On Gwendolen as a kind of psychic vampire and all
round unpleasant child.
Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika wrote
<I dunno. Like Cat and Chrestomanci, I sort of
admired her creativity. >
Well, they do, but only the stuff that's actually
funny as opposed to cruel (the snake skirt) or
disturbing (the revenants).
<The Nastiest Children in fiction are in Brock
Cole's _The Goats_. The Nastiest children in DWJ
are in Witch Week. >
Actually nasty children are pretty rare in Dwj.
Aside from the aforementioned and Time of the
Ghost's Julian Addyman there's the gang in
Wilkin's Tooth (for which blame Biddy) and Basil
in Dogsbody (blame his mother) but they turn out
more or less all right in the end.
<I think it's because I can see how Gwendolen got
to be Gwendolen (and I don't particularly admire
her parents, but then the Chants do seem to
have trouble with parenthood), and one can see
how her faults could be turned to good if she'd
been properly spanked on a regular basis...>
Really? I doubt regular beatings would have done
anything but make her even more vindictive.
<but the children in Witch Week are just the sort
of drearily nasty that children get to be, only
more so, as they have so few admirable
qualities. Not even creativity, ambition or
I found them pretty much like the kind of kids
that I hated at school, yes, but not nastier than
Gwendolen in a willing to give younger siblings
up for murder kind of way.
One thing however that Gwendolen and Julian have
in common -- apart from being murderous -- is
that neither of them really do seem like
children, it is as if they were born fully grown
Doh, ack, I'd quite forgotten about the
Prayermaster's boys in The Merlin Conspiracy,
it's pretty clear what made them so nasty I
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