dwj-digest (Diana Wynne Jones) V1 #753

Sarah sarah-neko at dove.gen.nz
Tue Nov 25 18:02:13 EST 2003


> Doesn't somebody on this list have a sig. to the effect that there are 
> two
> kinds of intelligence - the kind that knows things itself and the kind 
> that
> knows where to look to find out?. I'm sure I noticed it recently, 
> because
> I've just been rereading *The Prince* and Machiavelli says something 
> very
> similar (quite a recommendation). Course, on this list and elsewhere 
> both
> kinds of intelligence have been known to coexist happily inside the 
> same
> crania.
>
>
> Charlie

I think people are most successful when they have the combo - that is, 
wide and deep general knowledge, and research-y intelligence for the 
more specialised and obscure stuff.
I remember someone else at university telling me Leonardo da Vinci was 
the last man in the Western world who was able to know *everything* his 
people had learned. After his time civilisation's knowledge expanded so 
much that it could never be fitted in one head so knowing how to find 
out about what you didn't know became that much more vital.
This could, of course, be as reliable as the Isaac Newton story.

> Same: Christopher Lee ....  King Haggard
> Same: Angela Lansbury ....  Mommy Fortuna
> Same: Rene Auberjonois ....  Captain Cully and voice of the Skull 
> (voice)
>
> Interestingly different: Mia Farrow ....  Molly Grue  (instead of the
> unicorn)
>
> And a big old hmmm: Jonathan Rhys-Meyers ....  Schmendrick
>
> - -deborah

The 'Last Unicorn' fangirls I know are really excited about Jonathan 
Rhys-Meyers. I've never knowingly seen him in anything, so I can't 
comment.
Speaking of 'The Last Unicorn,' when I was watching 'The Matrix 
Revolutions' recently and Smith-as-Bane was bitching about how 
disgusting it was to be in a human body that he could *smell* and feel 
dying around him all the time, I thought oh! he could have a support 
group with Lady Amalthea.
I am always wanting to introduce characters from different stories who 
have similar problems.

> I've always thought of _The Prince_ as the ultimate practical guide to
> rulership and not necessarily something Machiavelli was advocating as 
> the
> most ethical course of action.  Sort of "if you want this result, do 
> this"
> without any commentary on whether that was morally right.  I've never 
> read
> the other...maybe I should.
>
> Melissa Proffitt

This is reminding me at random of one of my favourite bits from 'The 
Sopranos,' when Tony tells Dr Melfi he found her reading-recommendation 
of Sun Tsu's 'Art of War' helpful. 'Most guys like me, they read that 
Prince Matchavelly. I got Carm to get me the Cliff's Notes from the 
library one time, I couldn't really get into it.'

> Melissa: I found out about this thanks to Rhys-Meyers, because I was 
> looking up the
> cast of "Bend It Like Beckham" (I LOVE this movie).  All those 
> recastings
> are certainly interesting...and the web site said that Christopher Lee 
> was a
> major driving force behind getting it done.

I find the ENERGY of him amazing in a man of eighty-one. What's he *on*?

> Pani: In fact, the idea that people have that all the information in 
> the world
> is online somewhere is driving librarian (who are supposed to be 
> helping
> people to find the Good Information) absolutely nuts.
>
> In fact, the idea that everything is online recently (last couple of
> years) killed someone, when a physician did an online search for the
> effects of a chemical they wanted to try as a drug-- and the 
> information
> that it could cause fatal side effects was only indexed in a print 
> source,
> being more than 50 years old...

I discovered something similar when I applied for a job at the 
Cambridge University Press creating e-texts of publications from their 
lists. It is surprising how *few* important books are available online 
yet. The availability of authoritative and useful information online 
tends to be exaggerated by TV screenwriters who find it useful as a 
storytelling device.

> Months after watching the film, it's only just occurred to me that in
> Spirited Away we have a film about a girl/young woman who takes refuge 
> in a
> castle (of sorts), getting a menial job there by bullying the reluctant
> owner into accepting her, then making herself indispensible. She also 
> forms
> alliances with the creature responsible for powering and heating the 
> place
> and with the owner's right-hand man. Am I going crazy, or were some of 
> the
> ideas from *Howl* slopping around in Miyazake's (sp?) brain well 
> before he
> got round to doing the book proper?
>
> Charlie

Now that's spooky. I already found a visual association, and the fact 
that in both stories knowing the rules of fairy tale life is important, 
but what a lot of links you've found!  And it sounds quite reasonable 
to me!
'Howl's Moving Bathhouse' would have been a somewhat different story, 
of course *^.^*

> Melissa: My biggest problem is keeping her under the illusion that her 
> mom knows
> best.  I have to limit the number of crap books she brings home from 
> the
> library--even though the books she *loves* are the good ones, she still
> likes Pokemon novelizations.  Twerp.

Books are like food. It's nice to have some junk food on top of your 
healthy nutrition!

> lizzie: Y'know, on one hand, I completely understand why you would 
> want to point her
> away from such books, but on the other. . . the older I get, the more I
> appreciate the fact that I read _so_ many Babysitters Club Books.

I thought of the BSC in response to the same post, and wasn't going to 
say anything out of embarrassment, but what the heck, I'll admit it - I 
adored the Baby-Sitters Club and I still sometimes read the books out 
of nostalgia. And I was not a reluctant reader; I had to be scolded to 
talk to other children *rather* than reading. Actually, I stole that 
books/food analogy from one of the series characters, Claudia Kishi, 
who reads Literature with difficulty but burns through Nancy Drew 
paperbacks. Claudia's my favourite.
Of course, recommendations of good books are liberally scattered 
throughout the series as the characters mention what they're reading.

@}->-->---
E you later,
Déesse
(the artist formerly known as Sarah-neko)

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