On names, changing them, and pronunciation

Jon Noble jon_p_noble at yahoo.com
Mon Mar 10 14:57:51 EST 2003

--- Kyla Tornheim <kyla at merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu>
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Sally Odgers wrote:
> > Not the same where I live. The rhyming ones are as
> follows.
> >
> > Carrie rhymes with marry, baron, Aaron, Parrish,
> Karen
> > Kerry rhymes with merry, Terry, heron, Erin,
> hemlock
> > Mary rhymes with staring.
> >
> > And the difference is quite decided.
> ...and the interesting thing is that I agree with
> you completely, except
> for Karen, which I would have put with Mary and
> staring.
> The thing about not being able to distinguish
> between "cot" and "cought"
> is called a merger, I believe, and it and the
> pin/pen thing are both
> commonly known linguistic features. One of my
> friends, for her linguistics
> thesis, looked at the language of military brats,
> and those two features
> were two of the things she checked for.
I'd have to go with Sally for these, and I'd guess
that those pronounciations are pretty universal in Oz.
For US regional variations you may wish to look at


It has Mary/merry/marry but not pen/pin


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