Pronunciation (Was: Question: "High" concepts in Fantasy)

Jon Noble jon_p_noble at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 8 21:33:32 EST 2003


--- Abe Gross <argross at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > >That's because Victorians (or Melbournians, at
> least) tend to pronouce
> words
> > >like "castle" similar to the American way
> (cassle) instead of the British
> > >(car-stle). Another example is that we pronouce
> "France" and "prance" and
> > >similar words as in "cancer" while Sydneysiders
> say it the British way
> > >(FrAHnce).  I wonder how this particular
> difference came about. There are
> > >some other linguistic differences between NSW and
> Victoria (or maybe it's
> > >just between Sydneysiders and Melbournians?) that
> seem to be isolated
> > >oddities. An exmple
> > >that springs to mind is that we (Melbournians)
> use the word "bathers"
> while
> > >Sydneysiders say "swimsuit', "swimming costume"
> or "cozzie". When I grew
> up
> > >we only ever said "bathers", never anything else.
> What's even more
> > >interesting is that "bathers" is a plural word,
> as in "Where are my
> > >bathers?" though it's sometimes referred to as a
> "pair of bathers". I
> call
> > >examples like this oddities because while there
> mght be some subtle
> > >differences in accent or language use among
> various Australian states or
> > >cities, there's nothing like the huge and
> instantly recognisable accent
> and
> > >vocabulary
> > >differences that you find among the US states or
> in the UK.
> > >
> > >Ros
> 
> Emma wrote:
> 
> > To add to the confusion, nearly all Queenslanders
> I know call them "togs"!
> 
> I didn't realise that "togs" is (are??) specific to
> Queensland. It must be
> the importance of the beach in Australian life that
> produces the marked
> variation in swim-wear words!
> 
> (And after I wrote the above post, I realised that
> "bathers" being a plural
> word isn't really so strange after all; it just
> follows the pattern of other
> words for clothes worn on the legs: trousers, jeans,
> etc...Only if you use
> the word "swimsuit", it doesn't follow that
> pattern.)

It does if you say "swimmers" which again are a pair.

Jon

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