Pronunciation (Was: Question: "High" concepts in Fantasy)

Abe Gross argross at
Sat Mar 8 06:17:44 EST 2003

> >That's because Victorians (or Melbournians, at least) tend to pronouce
> >like "castle" similar to the American way (cassle) instead of the British
> >(car-stle). Another example is that we pronouce "France" and "prance" and
> >similar words as in "cancer" while Sydneysiders say it the British way
> >(FrAHnce).  I wonder how this particular difference came about. There are
> >some other linguistic differences between NSW and Victoria (or maybe it's
> >just between Sydneysiders and Melbournians?) that seem to be isolated
> >oddities. An exmple
> >that springs to mind is that we (Melbournians) use the word "bathers"
> >Sydneysiders say "swimsuit', "swimming costume" or "cozzie". When I grew
> >we only ever said "bathers", never anything else. What's even more
> >interesting is that "bathers" is a plural word, as in "Where are my
> >bathers?" though it's sometimes referred to as a "pair of bathers". I
> >examples like this oddities because while there mght be some subtle
> >differences in accent or language use among various Australian states or
> >cities, there's nothing like the huge and instantly recognisable accent
> >vocabulary
> >differences that you find among the US states or in the UK.
> >
> >Ros

Emma wrote:

> To add to the confusion, nearly all Queenslanders I know call them "togs"!

I didn't realise that "togs" is (are??) specific to Queensland. It must be
the importance of the beach in Australian life that produces the marked
variation in swim-wear words!

(And after I wrote the above post, I realised that "bathers" being a plural
word isn't really so strange after all; it just follows the pattern of other
words for clothes worn on the legs: trousers, jeans, etc...Only if you use
the word "swimsuit", it doesn't follow that pattern.)


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