starting Abhorsen discussion

Jon Noble jon_p_noble at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 22 18:13:50 EDT 2003


--- Paul Andinach <pandinac at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Melissa Proffitt wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 10:02:40 -0600, Robyn Starkey
> wrote:
> > 
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> 
> > > The Nick/Lirael thing just ticked me off. Why
> was it necessary?
> > > Why did Nix go to all that trouble to show all
> those women of
> > > the Clayr who were above needing romantic
> relationships, and
> > > then have Lirael (who was supposed to revere
> them) go all goopy
> > > over pathetic Nick?
> 
> > Oh, brother.  I said I saw this one coming way too
> early, and
> > because it was in _Lirael_ I really expected it to
> be the result
> > of the two meeting and getting to know each other
> in the normal
> > way.  (Or even, heaven forbid, her nursing him
> back to
> > health--shudder.)  Did Nix really have to resort
> to pairing them
> > off like that?  That was the only disappointing
> bit of the ending.  
> > I could have understood if she didn't follow the
> Clayr women's
> > pattern of being very self-sufficient, given that
> she felt like
> > such an outsider (you know how that usually works,
> where the
> > outsider either breaks all the traditions or
> becomes the ultimate
> > example of the society she's not a part of) but
> she barely even
> > knew Nick.  I wanted to believe in it, but it felt
> like too much
> > closure.
> 
> I've read _Lirael_ and _Abhorsen_ quite recently,
> and I still have no
> idea what the two of you are on about...
> 
I'm with Paul here (I think) I saw any Lirael/Nick
romance as a very minor (and indefinite) thing.


> Paul
> -- 
> "Hold fast to the one noble thing."
> 
btw, I do like this quote - who said it? when I've
looked on the Internet I can't find an author although
it is often linked, thematically, to Ursula LeGuin.

Jon

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