On Being a Hot Babe (was Re: Hexwood -- Catchup)
mep3 at st-andrews.ac.uk
Sat Feb 16 06:14:50 EST 2002
Yes--but I think that it's important that Rupert's idea of Maree before he
saw her was romantic. He was hoping for somebody beautiful and, I think,
meek--like a fairy tale princess (to go back to all those fairy tale
elements). She, on the other hand, was grown over with thorns inside and
hair and nails outside--like a protection or a trap. Maybe some of both.
And, um, I think my fingernails have gone all claw-like before. They
don't break, and despite my best efforts I can't bite them, so they just
keep growing until I get fed up and rip them off (nail clippers don't work
either, and I'm scared of them). I seem to remember having, um, long
nails once or twice that started to tinge yellow. And I'm not going to go
into too much detail here.
who would also buy a t shirt!!!
On Fri, 15 Feb 2002, Melissa Proffitt wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 07:28:41 +0800 (WST), Paul Andinach wrote:
> >On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Melissa Proffitt wrote:
> >> > > I like it too. Aside from its being subversive (see above) it
> >> > > illustrates just how much love does to change your perceptions;
> >> > > Maree, for one, doesn't change much, but Rupert learns to love
> >> > > what she is.
> >>> I think you have that the wrong way around.
> >>> Rupert initially perceives Maree's worst points because he's in a
> >>> bad mood and she's caused him a lot of trouble (some of which he
> >>> really caused himself), but once he's calmed down and got to know
> >>> her better he realises she's a nicer person than he gave her
> >>> credit for.
> >>> In other words, he came to love her after his perceptions changed,
> >>> not the other way around.
> > I'm talking about his perception of her physical traits, not her
> > personality.
> >Then you're wrong when you say (above) that Maree doesn't change much:
> >when Rupert meets her for the second time, she's had something done
> >about her hair, and she's wearing clothes he actually approves of.
> Been thinking about this for a while. That's certainly true, that she's not
> the scraggly witchy person he saw the first time. Her heartbreak (I should
> read the book again; she had a name for her state and I can't remember it,
> Crossed in Love or something?) led her to let herself go--not cut her nails,
> not care for her hair, and of course she couldn't afford good clothing.
> When she stops looking this way, she goes back to (I imagine) the way she
> looked before her boyfriend dumped her. So it's not like the movies, where
> a haircut and contact lenses can magically turn a wallflower into the Prom
> Queen. And at that point, she's still short and a little on the plump side,
> or at least she believes she is. My recollection is that when Rupert saw
> Maree as a normal person for the first time, he still wasn't exactly smitten
> with her beauty. And it's that second meeting that I think is the beginning
> of their relationship, with the first meeting just an unfortunate
> complication. Neither of them was thinking of the other as anything more
> than a chance meeting the first time (okay, Rupert knew who she was, but
> he'd rejected her as a Magid candidate and planned never to see her again,
> same effect).
> The thing is, I'm not suggesting that he falls in love with her *because*
> his perceptions of her appearance change. I'm saying that as he falls in
> love with her--because of her personality, because he lets go of his
> negative first impressions--her appearance becomes dearer to him. I had the
> feeling that his usual type was more like Zinka, tall and glamourous. Maybe
> it's just because "sleek" is the word that comes to mind when I think of
> Rupert; well-groomed, impeccable, glossy hair, etc. My impression (and this
> is not backed up by fact, just extrapolation, so it could be wrong) was that
> in gaining so much responsibility so young, Rupert never had time for
> serious relationships, and that he'd mostly dated women who were glossy and
> attractive too. I think most of Rupert's pratlike behavior stems from being
> a Magid so young; he's a nice guy who needs a little humanizing. Finding
> someone like Maree physically attractive didn't enter his mind at first;
> he's first drawn to her contradictory personality and her potential Magid
> ability, and only later to her body.
> Anyway, it struck me that this change happens all the time in real life, and
> I liked that it was reflected in the book. Maree didn't have to become
> tall, thin, and gorgeous for the hero to fall in love with her and think
> she's beautiful.
> >How much this matters, I don't know, but the change isn't all in
> >Rupert's head after he comes to love her.
> No, and I'm sure he never does find the scraggly version attractive. :)
> (The description of Maree's yellow claw-like nails fascinated me. My nails
> always start breaking on stuff when they get longer than about half an inch.
> I've been trying to remember if I've ever seen nails of that texture on real
> people, but can only think of ancient China and Reigner Three's jade nail
> shields or whatever they were. It's probably some kind of Magid trait.)
> Melissa Proffitt
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