dwj-digest (Diana Wynne Jones) V1 #334
hallieod at indigo.ie
Sun Jul 15 16:22:48 EDT 2001
>that's good. i haven't been reading for THAT long so i'm bound to
>make mistakes. i was mostly commenting on the thread i was
>responding to -- it seemed like people weren't into it. just wanted
>to say that i was.
Oh, I wasn't implying any kind of mistake on your part - just that
it's been a while since the real SWM fans have spoken up about it,
Actually, it got me thinking about how little unanimity there is here
on favourites or not-so-favourites. Pity it's so totally hard to
rank DWJs - it would be interesting to compare most-to-least loved
>>Oh well, then! No, I'd better avoid any remarks that might seem like
>>prejudice about dog-haters. :)
>i do find it to be a bit heavy-handedly moral. or i did when i read
>it. as i said, i haven't been able to make myself read it again.
>heavy-handed morals are not something that is usually a part of
>DWJ's books, and it's one of the many reasons i love them.
See, now I found SWM heavy-handed in the dangers of sexual/sensual
repression message, which seems pretty boring anyway. Or not boring,
exactly, but just a bit been-done-beforeish. (But then I'm half
Irish, so maybe the prejudice message in _Dogsbody_ is more palatable
to me for that reason. :))
>>>deep secret (22) - i haven't seen anyone talking about this one. i
>>Oh, you're not alone in loving this one! It's way up there for lots
>>of people, including me.
>good. i really hope she revisits this universe. by the way, i posted
>a message on dianawynnejones.com in the ask the author section that
>hasn't been answered yet .. but what do you guys think? i proposed
>(or not proposed, exactly, but suspect, maybe) that deep secret,
>dragon reserve home eight, and hexwood are in the same universe.
>well, i believe it's been stated for sure that the latter two are.
>but i'm not sure about DS in relation to them. the only evidence i
>have is that rupert refers to an "albion" once in DS, IIRC. and, of
>course, my heart wants it to be true since i adore these three to
I haven't read DRH8 for a while, though I liked it when I did. Did
you read it in _Minor Arcana_, with the intro where she talks about
writing it? It is MA which is slightly different in the US version -
_Hidden Turnings_, is it? (Yes, I know I could check the biblio.,
but too tired right now.)
>>How about _Fire and Hemlock_ or _Howl's Moving Castle_? Any opinions
>>on them? That you feel like sharing, that is. :)
>i read fire and hemlock originally when i was like, 12 -- shortly
>after i'd discovered lives of christopher chant (my first DWJ) and i
>didn't get it >at all<. i realise now that that is not too
>surprising, since i was a little young. much later i tracked it down
>again and reread it, and i loved it. i was just drop-dead in shock
>about how good it was. =) but like many (most?) others i had a
>seriously difficult time with the ending. i think thanks to DWJ's
>comments on dwj.com and posts and such, i have a better
>understanding of it nowadays.
>at the same time i read F&H for the first time, i read HMC and i
>liked it OK but i wasn't as wowed by it as i had been by TLoCC.
>(it's no shock that i read those two at the same time, because they
>were the only two DWJ books my local library had.) i can see why
>people like it so much, and i like howl and sophie both very much,
>but it's still a middling DWJ book for me. the same goes for its
I loved HMC to bits on the first couple of reads, but wasn't sure it
was more than a fluffy-love. Then people here posted insights,
thoughts, feelings about it and I no longer worried about its being
just fun fluff. _Castle in the Air_ doesn't do anything like as much
for me, but I think there are people who much prefer it over Howl.
>oh, and as a back-at-you: i dunno if everyone's had a chance to read
>it, since i think it's EXTREMELY rare, but i happened to have lucked
>into a copy of everard's ride. and i really, really like "the true
>state of affairs." it's terribly different (and depressing). i would
>actually say i was shocked by it -- i mean, it was a shock to read
>something in that style. but i do like it very much. i was wondering
>what everyone else thinks of it.
Oh wait, I think that answers my question above. The True State of
Affairs is in _Minor Arcana_. Got to admit, I sort of skimmed, and
haven't felt quite like reading it properly yet. Too depressing.
And I'm deeply wimpy about depressing reading.
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