hallieod at indigo.ie
Fri Aug 24 07:58:43 EDT 2001
>>Uhh. That's seems very odd to me somehow. Although I accept that
>>sometimes things have to be changed to give the same effect, it
>>still seems odd. And surely "Welshness" has a lot of different
>>cultural resonances than just smallness and out-of-the-wayness.
>>I've no idea what the cultural impact of those Japanese islands
>As an American who has been in Wales for a total of three days, my
>ideas of "Welshness" are not terribly developed. I get more out of
>the context within the book that he is from a differently-languaged
>minority within a larger culture, that it has a love of
>rough-and-tumble things like football (and football chants). I think
>Philips solution is probably right on. Of course, because of the
>last world war, different-language minorities in Japan have somewhat
>rawer position than the Welsh. A Korean voice, for example, would be
Oh, well. In for a penny... It may just be the connotations that
have built up around the word "minority" which are throwing me off,
and I know little or nothing about this anyway, but it still strikes
me as odd. Seeing Howl as just from a "differently-languaged
minority within a larger culture" seems to me to leave out the whole
feeling of how strong and influential that smaller culture actually
is (yes, I know it's all parodied in TG, but that's only because of
the overuse in sf novels). I was also remembering a DWJ quote,
without remembering exactly what it was, or where I'd read it.
Finally found it in a long-ago post from Elise during a
serious/completely farcical thread on Welsh. (Thanks, Elise, if
you're still lurking!)
"I still sometimes dream in Welsh, without understanding a word. And at the
bottom of my mind there is always a flow of spoken language that is not
English, rolling in majestic paragraphs and resounding with splendid
polysyllables. I listen to it like music when I write."
This is not offered as a point in favour of the correctness of my
argument, you understand, especially as I don't think I *have* an
argument, just a reaction. It's just such a wonderful quote, IMO,
and as it does form part of what makes up my completely subjective
concept of Welshness in this context, I was glad of the excuse to put
it in here.
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