general thanks

Jessie Bishop Powell jbpowe1 at
Wed Mar 15 12:18:57 EST 2000

I tend to lurk more than participate these days due to a horrible AWFUL ARRGH
grad school schedule.  However, some of the strands on this list keep me alert,
amused, and AWAKE when I'm writing 3AM papers. Thanks guys.  (And the grilled
cheese sandwhiches are great.)


"McMullin, Elise" wrote:

>         Melissa said:
>         "It's been my contention for years that the *good* modern fantasy is
> allegory for our time, and even though moralizing has gone out of style, I
> don't think allegory ever will or should. "
>         I like it.  It works for me.  Good allegory has the allegory sewn
> into the seams - don't you think?  I remember reading The Faerie Queen and
> just wincing at how heavy handed it seemed. And I thought the Roman de la
> Rose was groan-worthy.  Of course, I also roll my eyes to contemplate Milton
> setting up Paradise Lost so that the number of the page has meaning as to
> what is going on with the story - like the Fall happens on some page with an
> especially powerful, bad number.  Or so my prof informed us.  And then she
> told us he became blind and he dictated the whole thing to his daughters.
> Uh, can you imagine the writes and re-writes?  The moving things around to
> the pages that have meaning in the numbers - oh horrible!  Milton's
> daughters are unsung heroes, I think.
>         "This would mean that I would have to re-read the original myself.
> I think
> > I'd rather eat a live toad."
> >
>         Ah, but I remember it because I took a class called Drama before
> 1800 at Edinburgh.  It made medieval lit actually very interesting because
> we had saturday workshops in which we worked up the text of the morality
> plays and presented scenes to each other.  Many of the plays threw in rude,
> ignorant people for comic relief and we had much more fun playing crude
> ruffians than we anticipated.
>         But back to Everyman.  Everyman is nice but naive.  He falls in with
> a parade of Bad Companions who introduce him to gaming, drink and various
> vices.  He is brought low by them and then they dump him.  As Bessie Smith
> sang, "Nobody knows you, when you down and out.  In my pockets, not one
> penny.  And my friends, I haven't any."
>         Then he is shown mercy and enlightened by god - I can't remember
> what character comes along to tend to his education.  But it's not over yet.
> Next he starts of, sadder but wiser, and determined to hew to the straight
> and narrow.  This time he Falls again, but in wisdom.  I *think* the second
> time he succumbs to despair.  This is the Bigger Fall, to fall despite
> knowledge.  And the ending is that he is again shown mercy, which is to
> prove the redeeming excellence of the love of god. And he is transfigured by
> joy, um I think.
>         So there ya are and it wasn't too painful, I hope.
>         Elise
>         "When I get back on my feet again
>         I'll find my long lost friends"
>         -Bessie Smith, ready to cruise for another bruising.
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