introduction for the third time, if this doesn't work I give up!
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Tanaquil2 at aol.com
Wed Dec 15 01:57:44 EST 1999
In a message dated 12/14/99 5:29:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hedberg at vermontel.net writes:
> I contrast this
> ending to, for example, Sheri Tepper's BEAUTY....
This is the one Sheri Tepper I have not been able to re-read. It is
just too harrowing.
> I even think Terry Gilliam's BRAZIL is optimistic, in that the central
> character does find an escape the demonic humanity offers, in dreams. I
> think of it s a brilliant answer to Orwell's hermetically sealed 1984.
I liked this movie a lot, but it did make me feel sad at the same
time. I was glad he 'escaped' but I really wished there could have been a
way to save the world. But then that would have been missing the point I
suppose. Robert de Niro cracked me up! What did you think of "Time Bandits"
? (I liked it btw) and think Terry Gilliam is v under-rated as a director.
>One of the things I like about the way Jones "empowers" her characters is
>not, in the end to give them the sort of autonomy that leaves the empowered
>person alone. in FIRE AND HEMLOCK, Polly is empowered NOT to help herself,
>but to help Tom.
Hmm, that's interesting. I hadn't looked at it that way. For me,
the empowering optimistic part came in her not turning into Ivy or Reg,
especially Ivy. Which happens a lot in real life I think. I felt like that
was as much a curse Polly broke as the one on Tom that she broke; a sort of
family curse or something.
I think I mentioned before (long ago) that the ending made me feel sad only I
didn't know why, and then someone (Melissa? Elise? Someone else? sorry :(
I don't have the post ) said something wonderful about it being because they
don't get to curl up by a nice warm fire demon (or words to that effect).
And that was it exactly. But I also later looked at the ending of the
ballad, and one thing that's in there that isn't in F&H is Laurel / Queen of
Faerie saying something like "curses; foiled again." I wondered if that
would have helped me feel like she had really been defeated (at least for
this time round). Alas, I am a diehard fan of the indisputably happy
ending! (But F&H is still prob my favorite DWJ)
>In HOMEWARD BOUNDERS, Jamie becomes truly empowered when he
>uses his alienation to help Prometheus. Etc.
<skulking guiltily> I did *start* re-reading this, but it's lost
under the pile of all the other books I'm reading at the same time....
All this has got me wondering who qualifies as a strictly optimistic
storyteller? Oh, how about Georgette Heyer? (I don't know her mysteries
though, so maybe they'd disqualify her) It seems to be more common in
children's stories than adults'--except for romances.
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